after that press con presence in malaysia, i talked to a few of his aides and he was telling me he was prepping them and he knew everything about sterling's past, he had been following the story very closely and he saw the opportunity as a way to sort of raise the bar a little bit for the nba. he named by name dropping commissioner silver in there, to have him realize that this is the action that needed to be taken and hoped that whatever it took, you know, to have more public comments, add more weight to the issue, to encourage the decision that the commissioner ended up coming with. so it just was fascinating to find out how much not only that it want his staff prepping him but one of those cases the reverse. that's how closely he had followed the story and how much he knew about sterling's past. >> i think in many ways the last four days have shown the strength of the nba, not just adam silver but magic johnson, charles barkley -- >> and a number of white players, too. >> yes. this in many ways was a good moment for the nba. >> i think and i don't want to be naive here, but this guy